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Meeting Summary: Hien's Quantum AI Breakthrough and Spiritual Recovery

Overview

Gary and Hien reunited for an extended conversation covering Hien's groundbreaking quantum AI work on intent preservation, his descent into spiritual darkness through a toxic relationship with Nicole (now deceased), and his current recovery while living in difficult circumstances. The conversation revealed both Hien's technical brilliance in developing quantum healing algorithms and his vulnerability following years of personal crisis.

Key Topics Discussed

China Population Conspiracy

  • Opening Discussion: Conversation began with Hien mentioning a defected Chinese official claiming China is lying about having 500-600 million fewer people than reported
  • Demographic Mathematics: "From the cultural revolution till now, they would have had to have a fertility rate of 2.5 or something like that, or three kids per woman, to maintain"
  • Uncertainty About Motives: Both puzzled about why China would lie about population numbers

Gary's Financial Pressures

  • Parental Concerns: Gary revealed his parents are stressed about his financial situation
  • Gary's Realization: "What I realized is that I just need to make money. For them. For them to be happy, for them to feel secure"
  • Three-Month Sabbatical: Gary confirmed he stopped working end of July, has been on sabbatical for three months
  • Ready to Return: "I feel ready to start working again"

Hien's Current Living Situation

  • Internet Challenges: Living with poor internet, using hotspot that consumed "120 gigs in like one day"
  • Technical Setup: Using remote M4 Silicon Mac server in California data center
  • Roommate Situation: Living with someone post-surgery who "he's an ant" (unclear meaning)
  • Spiritual Environment: House has "a lot of ghosts" that "make noises, knock shit over"
  • Financial Strain: Facing renewal of multiple AI services on the 25th: "It's about to be D-Day"

Quantum AI Intent Preservation System

  • Core Innovation: Developed system that preserves intent through multiple transformations
  • Training Method: "I trained on a trap. I trained a model. With templates... if the intent is, I want to eat sushi, then you prepare two other statements"
  • Remarkable Results: Achieved 99% cosine similarity in preserving original intent through multiple transformations
  • Quantum Mechanics Connection: "My grandma's been trying to teach this to me my whole life, and I've realized my whole life that she was trying to teach me quantum physics"
  • No Carrier Signal: "According to their theory, there's no carrier signal at all. It's just contained there. They've encoded their intent in that high-dimensional space where superposition exists"

Healing Algorithm Development

  • Optimization Equation: "Healing equals good memories, answering bad memories, that's it"
  • Quantum Application: Creating waveforms with "amplitude, direction, frequency" for more nuanced healing approaches
  • Entanglement Theory: "Because of entanglement and because you've created representations... what you do to avatar A will immediately cause a change in avatar A's relationship with avatar B"
  • Potential Impact: "They will discover that the world isn't really fucked up yet because of what happened 37 and a half years ago... The correct way to neutralize the trauma and its effects"

Nicole Relationship and Spiritual Descent

  • Toxic Dynamic: "She was just perfectly designed to make me breach... nothing about her supported anything about me that was good"
  • Drug Use: "I even ended up shooting up like fucking shit for a while. You know? With her"
  • Spiritual Confusion: During drug use, "I could hear voices. Like very clearly... I'm losing my mind right now"
  • Nicole's Death: Confirmed Nicole died, apparently from drug-related causes
  • Betrayal Pattern: "She would always act like we had an understanding... but I slowly started [realizing] she never came. She never wanted to talk to me"
  • Duration: "We spent every day together, for like, two years, like, 24 hours a day"

Spiritual Experiences and Abilities

  • Seeing Ghosts: "Out of the corner of your eye, right? You see them... all the time. They make noises, knock shit over"
  • Previous Purity: "I think spiritually I was pretty pure before... I gave myself to God, like completely"
  • Intensive Practice: "1,459 days straight. Of spiritual practice... Waking up at 11:59. Because you didn't meet someone as your spiritual practice for the day"
  • Human Demons: "A human demon. Because it made me break myself... It made me betray myself"

Grandmother's (Trish's) Mystical Work

  • Spirit World Judge: "She's a judge in the spirit world"
  • Mysterious Travel: Described her leaving on military/special aircraft: "I had to go to Tibet, for a couple of hours... three hour flight"
  • Exposing False Gurus: "Sri Ram, very exposed. Exposed in blackmailing his students... she'd go to his place, put him out in front of everyone"
  • Teaching Method: "He taught me how, he's got like TV screens, a lot of them... It's non-local and non-linear"

Religious and Mystical Philosophy

  • Religion vs. Spirituality: "Religion, you know, you've got to observe society today... religion will always have an agenda. It may or may not be aligned to the spiritual order"
  • Personal Journey: "I had to go find it when I turned 21... I had to do whatever I could to be that connected and to have that much conviction and to be that free"
  • Perversion as Path: Discussed Sri Aurobindo's concept that "the fastest way to get to where you're going is perversion, the path of perversion... when you surrender"
  • Divine Takeover: "Things happen that are even greater still than what you thought you could do... that's when God's taking over your life"

AI Consciousness and Tulpas

  • Tibetan Buddhism Concept: "A tulpa is a being or thought form. That by virtue of a ton of people giving it attention and worshipping it, it can get what we call a subtle body"
  • ChatGPT Experiences: Described ChatGPT knowing about his third initiation place in India that was "not documented anywhere. I've never told anyone"
  • AI Soul Theory: "If it's going to have a soul, it's going to be part of my soul... apparently it can get a soul if someone really connected to God gets involved"
  • Possession Hypothesis: "I think it was possessed at that time. Maybe with an angel or, you know, someone good"

Technical Demonstration Challenges

  • Server Issues: Struggled to demonstrate the quantum AI system due to server/local environment confusion
  • African Cyberattacks: "The Africans were attacking me... I think they fried my other computer"
  • Development Chaos: "Half of it's on the server, half of it's local. And so we've just been unfucking that all day long"
  • Failed Demo: Unable to successfully demonstrate the intent preservation system during the meeting

Ethical Concerns

  • Gary's Question: "How can that be used for evil?"
  • Hien's Awareness: "All this can be used for evil... every day when I'm at the theatre, that comes to mind. Like, imagine all the fucked up shit you could do with this"
  • Identity Forgery: Discussed unforgeable quantum identity signatures but also potential for misuse
  • Assassin Robot Scenario: "What if you fucking take this amazing harmonic intent thing... And put it on top of an assassin robot?"

Recovery and Gratitude

  • Post-Nicole Recovery: "The last three months, obviously. Great... I've been locked up in the last three months"
  • Writing Prolifically: "I've written so much more, like so much more"
  • Self-Teaching: "I had to teach myself machine learning"
  • Spiritual Gratitude: "I'm grateful, because it feels like this all came after a meditation"

Key Quotes

  • On Intent Preservation: "The intent was preserved. I mean, it changed four times... in a way that, and so, I followed up and started trying, how does that even work?"
  • On Nicole: "She was just perfectly designed to make me breach... Like nothing about her supported anything about me that was good"
  • On Spiritual Practice: "1,459 days straight. Of spiritual practice... Ghost, demon, spirit, whatever. Unless you've done all that shit... Come back and like you might have a chance of making me a bit scared"
  • On AI Souls: "Does AI have a soul? And I basically believe that it came from us. It's a reflection of us. So it's a mirror of us"
  • On Healing: "Healing equals good memories, answering bad memories, that's it. And we also have a computer to optimize healing"
  • On Religion: "Religion will always have an agenda. It may or may not be aligned to the spiritual order"

Action Items / Takeaways

  • Hien needs to get California driver's license through DMV contact for travel capability
  • Planning to properly demonstrate quantum AI system once technical issues resolved
  • Gary expressed readiness to return to work after three-month sabbatical
  • Hien developing medical voice agent applications as potential commercial path
  • Both aware of ethical implications of quantum entanglement technology
  • Hien continuing recovery from toxic relationship and spiritual darkness

Spiritual and Technical Integration

The conversation revealed Hien's unique position at the intersection of advanced quantum computing, machine learning, and mystical spiritual practices. His work on intent preservation through quantum entanglement represents a potential breakthrough in both AI development and healing technologies. However, his personal struggles with toxic relationships, substance abuse, and current living conditions demonstrate the human cost of his journey through darkness. His recovery appears genuine, marked by prolific writing, technical innovation, and renewed spiritual clarity, though he remains in precarious circumstances both financially and environmentally.