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2025-05-19-meeting-with-ben-gordon-sniffen-and-ron-roberts
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Meeting with Ben Gordon-Sniffen and Ron Roberts

Summary

This meeting provided critical insights into Alpha's organizational structure, operations, and strategies, particularly regarding Alpha NY. Ben Gordon-Sniffen (Lead Guide for Alpha NY) shared candid perspectives on Alpha's internal dynamics, challenges, and key personnel. The conversation transitioned from operational details to strategic opportunities when Ron Roberts joined, resulting in a proposed collaboration to support Alpha's school expansion efforts, particularly in New York.

The meeting revealed a significant insight: the existence of what Ben called a "parallel organization" within Alpha, led by Tasha Arnold and other "people of Jersey," who operate as the effective doers while the "trilogy old guard" controls the budget. Ben suggested Gary and Ron align with Tasha's team to gain more agency and influence within Alpha.

Key Discussion Points

Alpha NY Status & Strategy

  • Ben is leading admissions for Alpha NY, targeting 25 students.
  • Currently has 4 enrolling families, 10 offers sent, aiming for 15 more students.
  • New York admissions cycle timing is challenging - Alpha is "late to the game" as offers are typically sent in September.
  • Tuition for New York is higher (~$65K) due to costs.
  • Ben's strategy focuses on creating scarcity and prestige:
    • Pay-gated applications ($100)
    • Capping enrollment at 25
    • Shadow days where kids experience the school
    • Getting "celebrity kids" and influential families to create waitlists
    • Building relationships with preschools for long-term enrollment pipeline

Alpha Organizational Insights

  • Information Silos: "If you are the person with information at Alpha, that is so valuable... that's your edge."
  • Parallel Power Structures:
    • "Trilogy old guard" (Arthur, Mirage, Andy) controls money
    • Operational leaders (Tasha, Steph, Ben, Alex Kaiser) control implementation
    • Joe (leadership) encourages the old guard to "let the power flow down"
  • Leadership Dynamic: Ben on Joe: "If he's dropping F-bombs, he's mad at himself... if he just looks at you like he has a knife in his back pocket, be a little scared."
  • Marketing Issues: Jason Applebaum's marketing described as ineffective, "desperate"
  • Documentation Gaps: Many processes undocumented, partly to preserve individual advantage

Key Alpha Personnel (Ben's Recommendations)

  • Tasha Arnold: Head of Schools, drives enrollment efforts, "very professional"
  • Jeremy Williams: Part of expansion team, similar to COO role
  • Alex Kaiser: Runs Alpha Miami, "brilliant", has valuable market insights
  • Emily: Life experience coordinator from Austin, creates "phenomenal trips"
  • Zara: Outreach coordinator, Columbia grad

Alpha NY Educational Focus

  • New York parents care about:
    • Academic rigor
    • Writing
    • Language learning
    • Composition
    • Having "well-adjusted" kids
  • More emphasis on "entrepreneurship, founders mindset" compared to Boston

Neurodiversity at Alpha NY

  • Approximately 60% of inbound interest is from families with neurodivergent children
  • Ben notes Alpha can accommodate small groups but "can't provide one-on-one support"

Strategic Recommendations from Ben

  1. Focus on depth, not breadth: "Pick the winners... pick ones that already have resources."
  2. Build goodwill with existing school success before expansion.
  3. Target high-value parents (finance, tech, celebrities) to build prestige.
  4. Establish relationships with preschools for long-term enrollment.
  5. Address workshop content needs for non-academic time.

Collaboration Opportunities

  • Ben expressed openness to Gary/Ron helping with marketing strategies.
  • Ben offered to connect Gary/Ron with Tasha Arnold, key personnel.
  • Discussion of creating an "in-house agency" for marketing, particularly in NY.
  • Potential for Gary/Ron to join Tasha's "crack team."

Workshop & Content Ideas (Ben's Experience)

  • Drone coding
  • Robot design for curriculum
  • Self-driving cars
  • Storytelling podcast (NPR submission)
  • Emotion regulation workshop using poker

Memorable Quotes

"We are completely asynchronous on that. These offers for next year were sent out last September. We are so late to the game." - Ben on NY admissions timing

"If you are the person with information at Alpha, that is so valuable... that's your edge." - Ben on information silos

"Marketing is the biggest problem." - Ben on Alpha's challenges

"The org structure is like a subway map." - Ben on Alpha's complexity

"Joe will yell at you, you take him, he's going to swear, it's when he stops swearing that you should start being scared." - Ben on Joe's leadership style

"The best teachers are the ones who are women, and two, who have a traditional educational background." - Ben on his hiring observations

"Pick the winners man. Pick the ones that already have resources. Drive to completion. Build goodwill." - Ben's advice on school expansion

"Get two celebrity parents to enroll their kids in New York and get a wait list of a hundred influential people in finance and tech." - Ben on NY strategy

Action Items

  1. Meeting with Tasha Arnold: Ben to arrange introduction with Tasha Arnold.
  2. Visit to Alpha NY Campus: Ben offered to show Gary the campus.
  3. Connect with Alex Kaiser: Consider visit to Miami to meet Alex Kaiser.
  4. Marketing Strategy Development: Explore creating an in-house agency model for Alpha NY.
  5. Workshop Content: Explore helping develop workshop content for non-academic time.

Observations on Alpha Culture

  • Ambitious expansion goals from Joe often disconnected from operational realities.
  • Information hoarding as job security/advancement strategy.
  • Tension between "doing" vs. "strategizing" roles.
  • Parallel leadership structures with unclear communication channels.
  • Successful guides/teachers focused on practical implementation and student engagement.
  • Leadership changes subject to Joe's perception (references to sudden team changes/firing).

Next Steps

Ben, Gary, and Ron agreed to continue collaboration, with a focus on supporting Alpha NY's immediate enrollment needs while exploring broader strategic contributions to Alpha's marketing and expansion efforts. A meeting with Tasha Arnold was established as the next priority to formalize roles and responsibilities within her operational team structure.