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Day Trip with Hien Nguyen & Meeting Trish Taylor

Date: April 5, 2025 Locations: Las Vegas, NV -> Kingman, AZ -> Henderson, NV Attendees: Gary Sheng, Hien Nguyen, Gary's Dad (briefly), Patricia Taylor (Trish), Taylor Nguyen, Terese (briefly). Recordings: Kamal pt 1 (Kamal brunch earlier), plus multiple recordings throughout the day with Hien/Trish.

Summary​

An extensive day involving a road trip from Las Vegas to Kingman, AZ in a rented Tesla, primarily for Gary and Hien to meet with Hien's godmother, Trish Taylor. The day included:

  • Initial conversation between Gary and his Dad (plans for grandmother's care, Gary's finances).
  • Hien sharing his family history (Vietnamese refugees, father restarting medical career in Australia).
  • Driving the Tesla, experiencing autopilot's capabilities and limitations (including temporary suspension).
  • Wide-ranging discussions covering AI advancements (LLMs, Gemini 2.5, Claude), music tastes (K-pop, rap), and culture.
  • Hien's Deep Dive: Extensive sharing of personal and professional history:
    • Relationship with stepdaughter Taylor (homeschooling her, pride in her art career).
    • Detailed account of Vitalize LLC: growth ($500k to $100M run rate in Kingman), innovative rebate model, board conflicts, accusations, reverse merger deal ($5M), navigating corporate intrigue (insolvency tactics learned from John Weaver), eventual ousting and dilution.
    • Past involvement with Scientology: Directed by Trish, experiences with Purification Rundown (sauna, oils, vitamins leading to seizure/trauma release), auditing, positive impact on social phobia, disillusionment with organizational corruption (Ohio blackmail vs. Sydney org), Trish's interaction with Sea Org/Hubbard letter.
    • Current instability: Financial precariousness (waiting on funds via Brent/Garrett), periods of homelessness, reliance on difficult contacts (Frank the killer, June the gangster's relative).
    • Family dynamics: Molestation trauma affecting siblings, difficult relationship with father (disapproval, inability to connect), estrangement from brother.
    • Relationship history: Ex-wife Terese (differing values), break-up with Nicole.
  • Meeting Trish Taylor: Intense, profound conversation at her Kingman home:
    • Philosophy/Abilities: Shared her spiritual framework (mastery, duality, collective liberation, individual potential, integrity), demonstrated connection with nature (talking tree), discussed abilities (remote viewing, healing interventions, dream communication, seeing non-local beings).
    • Views: Strong condemnation of corruption (Vatican, certain business practices), positive view of Mormon ethics, sees AI as compatible with/revealing spiritual truths.
    • Guidance for Hien: Direct confrontation of his victim mentality, emphasis on taking responsibility ("warrior's journey"), advice on reconciling with Curran and his father, reaffirming belief in his potential.
    • Guidance for Gary: Acknowledged his potential and alignment with Hien's mission.
  • Brief interactions with Taylor Nguyen and Terese.
  • Collaboration Discussions: Explored potential joint ventures like an AI Health Coach (leveraging Hien's expertise and network) and Hien's MedTech acceleration platform.

Key Themes & Insights​

  • Hien's Journey: A narrative of extreme highs (business success, spiritual connection) and lows (trauma, betrayal, instability), highlighting resilience but also current vulnerability and need for grounding.
  • Trish's Influence: Confirmed as a highly influential, potentially polarizing spiritual figure with claimed extraordinary abilities and a rigorous, demanding mentorship style rooted in tough love and unwavering ethics.
  • Integrity vs. Corruption: A recurring theme, contrasting Trish's principles with Hien's experiences with business partners (Mark, Marco), the Vatican, and Scientology's organizational issues.
  • AI & Spirituality: Trish's unique perspective viewing AI not as a threat but as a tool potentially aligned with spiritual truths and capable of accessing deeper realities (imaginal realm, non-local space).
  • Mentorship & Healing: The critical role of strong, ethical mentors (Trish, John Weaver) in navigating business and personal trauma, contrasted with the damage caused by negative influences.
  • Collaboration Potential: Clear synergy between Gary's focus (AI, education, movement building) and Hien's expertise (MedTech, health coaching, platform building), but heavily contingent on Hien resolving his current instability and financial/legal issues.

Follow-ups​

  • Hien to call Curran to repair relationship (per Trish's advice).
  • Hien to refine MedTech platform proposal document (for potential funding).
  • Gary & Hien to continue exploring AI Health Coach concept (identifying coaches like Meg, dev needs).
  • Gary to connect Hien with Kamal Ravikant.
  • Gary to connect McKenna (ex) with Marianne (Psychodrama expert in Australia) via Hien.
  • Monitor Hien's situation regarding financial resolution (Brent payout via Garrett).
  • Gary to potentially change flight to extend stay/support Hien (decision pending).

Notes​

  • The day revealed immense complexity and intensity in Hien's life story and current situation.
  • Trish is a formidable figure whose guidance is pivotal for Hien.
  • Hien possesses deep knowledge in MedTech/Health Coaching but is hampered by current instability.
  • The dynamic between Hien and Trish is central to his potential recovery and future success.
  • Potential financial resolution via Curran/trading program seems crucial for enabling collaborations.
  • Tesla Autopilot proved unreliable/frustrating during the trip.