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Conversation with Benjamin Anderson

Date: April 3, 2025
Participants: Gary Sheng, Benjamin Anderson

Summary​

A catch-up call covering Benjamin's recent travels and work with Hevolution in Saudi Arabia, his past legacy interview business, Gary's new role in "movement engineering" with Joe Liemandt, and potential connections between their networks. The conversation explored Benjamin's current work in challenging biological paradigms and Gary's transition to AI-focused education initiatives.

Key Topics Discussed​

Benjamin's Current Work & Travel​

  • Recent trip to Europe combining meetings with time with his fiancée
  • Met with Max (longevity investment fund) in Switzerland
  • Visited CERN to meet with Andrew Marino about particle physics
  • Working with Hevolution in Saudi Arabia on longevity roadmapping
  • Acting as a "Node Runner" to identify and connect with innovative researchers
  • Challenging conventional membrane theory and biological paradigms

Benjamin's Past Business Venture​

  • Co-founded legacy interview business with Vance
  • Recorded and preserved life stories of individuals
  • Charged $5,000-$10,000 per interview
  • Built recurring revenue through retirement communities like Friendship Village
  • Vance bought Benjamin out when he left to focus on biology
  • Business has grown to include multiple employees (video editor, creative director, admin)

Gary's Current Projects​

  • Recently joined an AI engineering bootcamp after Vatican project fell through
  • Now working with billionaire Joe Liemandt in Austin
  • Developing concept of "movement engineering" to support education initiatives
  • Planning to identify and work with politicians to enable micro-school development
  • Long-term goal to make AI tutors accessible globally
  • Creating "Hyper Agent Labs" consultancy focusing on power accumulation

Shared Personal Insights​

  • Gary shared family history of prison camps in China that gave him perspective
  • Benjamin explained his scientific approach of questioning established models
  • Both expressed interest in connecting their networks
  • Discussed the transformative impact of ZooZaloo on Benjamin's career direction

Potential Collaborations​

  • Gary offered to introduce Benjamin to Joe Liemandt during future Austin visits
  • Gary planning to introduce Benjamin to Ian (described as biology genius)
  • Benjamin offered to connect Gary with Vance regarding legacy interview business
  • Potential for Benjamin to meet Neils (developing "Fiverr for geniuses" platform)

Action Items​

  • Gary to text Benjamin later to arrange introduction to Ian
  • Benjamin to mention Gary to Vance during their weekly coffee meeting
  • Benjamin to visit Austin in the future and connect with Gary
  • Gary to introduce Benjamin to Neils (Switzerland contact already connected via WhatsApp)

Notes​

The conversation demonstrated the value of maintaining relationships and connections across different domains. Both Gary and Benjamin are focused on transformative work in their respective fields and see potential value in cross-pollinating their networks. The discussion revealed their shared interest in leveraging technology and innovation to address significant human challenges, though in different domains (education and longevity).

Original transcript: [Full transcript available in system]