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Gary Sheng & Richard Presley Vision Reconnection
Date: June 20, 2025 Participants: Gary Sheng, Richard Presley Context: Follow-up conversation building on 2-3 year relationship, discussing technological innovation, spiritual experiences, and strategic focus
Executive Summary
Reconnection conversation between Gary Sheng and Richard Presley, building on their initial meeting 2-3 years ago at "Mingo." Discussion covers Richard's recognition of Gary's potential, shared philosophical perspectives on systemic breakdown, Richard's background with motivational legend Zig Ziglar, advanced VR/AR technology development, Vatican museum project collaboration, traveling Jesus experience vision, and strategic project prioritization principles.
Relationship Foundation & Recognition
Initial Meeting Recall (2-3 Years Ago)
Recognition of Potential: Richard demonstrated early recognition of Gary's unique qualities:
"And when I saw you, I knew that I that I knew you put together. We've made a lot of people... But you stood out. I just couldn't remember the other guy."
Location Context: Meeting occurred at "Mingo" - a place that has since been sold, providing historical context for their relationship development.
Memorable Conversation Topics: Their first interaction covered serious themes:
"Well, we talked about I remember I was talking about the car and then how people get killed for their inventions. And then we talked about Denver."
Marcus Connection: Mutual contact Marcus has since "got ordained as a minister" and "fully leaned into that mission, that purpose in his life assignment."
Philosophical Alignment on Systemic Breakdown
Gary's Evolution: Progression from partial to total systemic critique:
"So much has happened in the last two or three years. A lot of a lot of recognition of just I already kind of had this sense that everything is broke. Most things are broke. Now I kind of think that everything's broken."
Richard's Confirmation: Explicit agreement on comprehensive system failure:
"Everything's broken, broken."
Zig Ziglar Legacy & Motivational Foundation
Personal Relationship with Zig Ziglar
Deep Personal Connection: Richard revealed extraordinary access to motivational legend:
"Zig was like an adopted grandparent. I have quotes of his that I saved for four years of his life with the exception of two times before he passed."
Core Philosophy: Gary cited classic Ziglar principle:
"Oh, one of my one of my favorite quotes of his is you can have everything in life you want if you just help enough other people get what they want."
Richard's Agreement: Confirmed philosophical alignment with Ziglar's teachings.
Spiritual Boot Camp Vision
Gary's Men's Ministry Insight: Recognition of insufficient traditional approaches:
"Now that I know that you're in the you've been in the motivational training world, I I've been thinking about how it's not enough to to tell men to go back to church. We have to like create like a boot camp of inspiration somehow."
Industrial-Spiritual Integration: Connection between future industrialist training and spiritual development:
"Well, well, I'm I'm just saying like there's going to be some people that we help, like in China, for example, become future industrialists. They'll probably be a very small group."
Miracle Reconnection Strategy: Core therapeutic approach to modern nihilism:
"Yes, exactly. Where it's like helping people reconnect with the miracle of their life. I think that we live in a very nihilistic society."
Advanced Technology Development
Overlook 360 Metaverse Platform
Company's Metaverse Solution: Richard introduced proprietary virtual reality system:
"Overlook 360. That's our version of Metaverse."
Unreal Engine Foundation: Built on established gaming/VR infrastructure for robust performance and compatibility.
Revolutionary AR Glasses Technology
Ambient Environment Integration: Breakthrough approach to augmented reality:
"We have glasses that you can see the ambient environment. So you don't get, you know, Oculus, they're detached from reality. Well, they're not only detached from reality, but they lose their sense of balance."
Technical Superiority: Addressing fundamental VR/AR limitations:
"Oh, you can only see what is being projected. Okay, with our glasses, you can see through just like you're looking through a pair of glasses, you can see the ambient environment. So you're not disoriented."
Dual Projection Capability: Simultaneous real-world and digital content integration:
"But you can also see what's being projected on the glass or through the glass."
Universal Accessibility: Technology works for all participants:
"And if they're not wearing glasses, it could be on the display, jumbotron, whatever, right? To give them a better understanding."
Spiritual VR Applications
Solomon's Temple Experience: Immersive biblical history platform:
"Well, if you can imagine medication is to walk someone or leave someone. Solomon's Temple. And walk up to a podium. Here's a good example of a podium. Walk up to a podium and have a scroll come up in front of you to be able to read that scroll, regardless of whether it's in James version or not."
Educational Integration: VR as tool for spiritual and historical education rather than entertainment.
Vatican Museums Collaboration
Gary's Vatican Project
Museum Enhancement Initiative: Gary's involvement in institutional upgrade:
"So last year, I was asked to help out with the leveling up of the Vatican museums. So imagine like, it's not just a bunch of cool looking things."
First Quarter Timeline: Project implementation scheduled for early 2025.
Universal Technology Access: Richard's confidence in technological solution:
"And there's some cool technology that doesn't require you to wear anything. guarantee. 100% of the people that enter guarantee is 100%."
Traveling Jesus Experience Vision
Global Spiritual Mission
Gary's Divine Calling: Articulated vision for transformational ministry:
"So what I what I want, what I feel like God has called me to do one of the things is to create a Jesus experience that travels the world. Like an immersive experience."
Technology Integration: Leveraging VR/AR capabilities for spiritual encounter design.
Global Reach Strategy: Mobile platform for international spiritual impact.
Strategic Focus & Project Prioritization
Historical Learning from Overextension
Richard's Experience: Extensive background managing multiple initiatives:
"Have you experienced that pitfall? Before where they're just like almost too many projects that are not? Yeah. Probably 100s or 1000s. I don't know."
Gary's Recognition: Awareness of focus challenges in mission-driven work.
Prioritization Philosophy
Focus Strategy: Richard's guidance on project management:
"Do you think that it's a good time to focus? Focus on bigger projects? Well, just it's a lot of its focus. Prior prioritization."
Scale Selection: Emphasis on larger, more impactful initiatives rather than scattered smaller projects.
Financial Healing & Mission Alignment
Gary's Personal Development: Resolution of money-related psychological barriers:
"All about the Benjamins. Yeah, I've healed my money trauma."
Resource Integration: Healthy relationship with financial resources as tools for mission advancement.
Technology-Spirituality Integration Themes
Historical Suppression Recognition
Richard's Perspective: Understanding of information manipulation across history:
"There's been a lot of manipulation and not work just as there is in the industrial revolution... Some some books that was left that was purposely left out of the book that see scrolls type thing."
Translation Challenges: Recognition of interpretation difficulties in historical and spiritual texts.
Immersive Spiritual Education
VR as Ministry Tool: Technology serving spiritual formation rather than entertainment Accessibility Focus: Ensuring spiritual experiences reach broad audiences through technological innovation Historical Reconstruction: Using VR to recreate biblical and historical environments for educational purposes
Strategic Implications
Technology-Ministry Convergence
Richard's background combines advanced VR/AR development with deep spiritual formation experience through Zig Ziglar connection, positioning him as valuable bridge between technological capability and spiritual mission.
Global Ministry Platform
The combination of Overlook 360 technology, AR glasses capability, and traveling Jesus experience vision creates potential for unprecedented global spiritual outreach.
Focus-Driven Development
Richard's experience with hundreds/thousands of projects provides crucial guidance for Gary's strategic prioritization as mission scope expands.
Systemic Transformation Approach
Shared recognition of comprehensive institutional breakdown creates foundation for alternative approaches to education, spirituality, and human development.
Relationship Significance
This conversation demonstrates the evolution of Gary and Richard's relationship from initial recognition to strategic collaboration potential. Richard's unique combination of technological innovation, spiritual formation background, and project management experience positions him as valuable collaborator for Gary's expanding educational and spiritual mission initiatives.
The alignment on systemic critique, spiritual formation needs, and technological solutions creates foundation for potential collaboration on multiple fronts including China education project, Vatican museum enhancement, traveling Jesus experience, and broader spiritual boot camp initiatives for men's ministry.