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Transcript Summary: Gary Sheng, Samuel Armes, David McIntosh, Nav Singh & Jean-Luc (briefly) - 2025-05-15

Location: Restaurant in DC Attendees: Gary Sheng, Samuel Armes, David McIntosh, Nav Singh, Jean-Luc (joined briefly)

Key Themes & Discussion Points:

1. Current Projects & Political Landscape: - Samuel Armes: Discussed his travel schedule (New York for Eric Adams fundraiser, Austin, Vegas), work with FOMO, David, and Leo (potentially Argentina trip), and HIT Network activities. Mentioned coordinating with Adams for a photo op. - David McIntosh: Talked about Club for Growth's work on school choice, efforts to make parolees' employment easier (working with Jessica Jackson and Andy Biggs), and the political climate in Arizona (Masters/Lake election). Gave insights on the Supreme Court (birthright citizenship, Justice Barrett's voting patterns) and the debt ceiling bill. Discussed the upcoming crypto conference in New York. - Gary Sheng: Shared his vision for America 2.0, the need for societal rethinking, and his belief in divine purpose. Introduced his concept of "Trump World" and a U.S. 250th Anniversary World's Fair. - Nav Singh: Introduced as Bo Hines's successor at Nexum, working with Todd Hines. Discussed his background in finance, computer science (COBOL), and his current focus on crypto/Bitcoin futures trading.

2. Trump World & 250th Anniversary World's Fair: - Gary outlined a vision to acquire federal land near Elon Musk's Texas facilities to host a year-long World's Fair starting July 4, 2026, fulfilling a Trump campaign promise. - Post-fair, the site would be developed into "Trump World," a new city/economic zone. - Key Idea: Utilize cryptocurrency to give every U.S. citizen an equity stake in Trump World, making U.S. citizenship highly valuable and aligning public benefit with technological progress. - Gary: "We can literally unite the whole Trump futuristic yet bring everyone together for the working people agenda together all in one. People don't understand that technological progress doesn't just have to benefit David Sachs, right? It can benefit everyone." - This would involve Dr. Lael Alexander for architectural/manufacturing expertise and Alpha Schools for education. - David McIntosh mentioned his foundation and Heritage are working on 250th-anniversary programs and that the White House commission might be replaced. He connected Gary with Glenn (from his fellowship) who is involved in these efforts. - The group discussed leveraging connections (Paula White, Bo Hines) to advance these concepts within the Trump administration.

3. Faith, Divine Purpose & Philosophy: - Extensive discussion on the role of faith in their lives and work. - Gary: "I think for me, there's a lot of logical explanations that make sense to me. But what has really made sense to me... is because music was what brought me to God...Kanye West's Sunday service choir...softened my heart...it has to be God." - David: "I think things succeed when you build things when they're actually God's plans and we're tapping into it." - Nav: "If you're aligned with that purpose, the energy is... Completely different, yeah. The whole body gets activated, right?... Surrender. To God? Yes." - Samuel led a detailed discussion on the Old Testament, interpreting its narratives (Lot, Sodom and Gomorrah, Book of Numbers, prophets) as historical and allegorical lessons relevant to civilization, sin, and divine providence. - Samuel: "The Old Testament is historically factual... You are watching the rise and fall of a civilization... The whole Old Testament is how Jesus' lineage and bloodline is preserved in crazy ways." - The group discussed the concept of T3 and T4 hormones as an analogy for original divine code versus man-made copies, implying a deeper, intrinsic universal order.

4. Education Reform & Chicago Strategy: - Gary outlined a strategy to revolutionize education in Blue Cities, starting with Chicago. - Plan: Partner with influential Black pastors (e.g., Pastor Brooks, who has a new $32M community center) and respected community leaders (e.g., Justin Cunningham of Social Works, Chance The Rapper) to establish Alpha Schools micro-schools. - Goal: Create demonstrably superior, AI-first, faith-centered schools that empower the Black community, thereby challenging the teachers' unions' grip by offering a better alternative and mobilizing parents. - Gary: "My faith, my fucking choice. My fucking kids, my fucking choice. And you have, like, all these fucking angry ass, you know, mobs, literally." - Leverage connections like Ken Griffin (who left Chicago for Miami but might be interested in redeeming the city) and Alexi Giannoulias (via Justin Horowitz). - This initiative aims to showcase a successful model that can be replicated nationwide.

5. Crypto & Trading Insights: - Nav Singh shared his Bitcoin futures trading strategy: focused, short-term trades, importance of active monitoring, and not being swayed by market sentimentality. He views it as a "volatile sport." - Nav: "I'm working it here. I'm getting this. I'm going to go down. I'm not going to try to catch this here... I'm going to catch that little cube." - Samuel discussed the general crypto market sentiment: newer participants are interested in many altcoins, while experienced ones focus primarily on Bitcoin. Admitted to being a bad market timer. - Discussion on COBOL still being used by airlines and Joe Liemandt's company having a monopoly on related software.

6. Networking & Connections: - Bo Hines: Discussed extensively. David McIntosh described him as smart, intense, optimistic, and knowledgeable about crypto. Nav Singh took over his role at Nexum. Jean-Luc, Bo's childhood friend, made a brief appearance. - Paula White: Gary and Jean-Luc mentioned plans to meet her at the Eisenhower Building. - Jeff Yass: Discussed his significant funding for school choice. His representative Robert Enloe (Ed Choice) was mentioned. - Eric Trump & Donald Trump Jr.: Gary shared his intel that Eric is the smarter businessperson, while Donald Jr. is more motivated by personal wealth, suggesting a strategy to pitch Trump World to Donald Jr. - Jean-Luc: Bo Hines's childhood friend, a yacht captain for a billionaire (founder of Apple Pay/Loot Pay). Gary suggested he could be a spokesperson for new city developments. Exchanged contacts. - Arjun (Naval Ravikant's mentee): Joined via video call from Beijing, flying to New York soon. Naval was described as "Socrates for nerd tech people."

7. Miscellaneous: - Light-hearted discussion about the perceived lack of attractive people in DC ("Hollywood for ugly people"). - Samuel's story about Chinese intelligence allegedly using a microwave in a US military base for espionage. - Discussion about seed oils (canola oil history) and food preferences (grits, Korean BBQ, hot pot as an IQ test). - Plans for future meetings: Gary & David to have breakfast; Gary, Samuel, and Nav to potentially meet in New York and Austin.

Key Quotes:

  • Gary Sheng:
    • On Trump World & Citizen Equity: "If Trump wanted to create Trump World and give every American citizen .0001% equity stake in Trump World, he could do that with crypto."
    • On Education Reform: "Republicans have not... I mean, first of all, Republicans just pay me to funnel money to Black Pastors and then we fucking win every Blue City."
    • On Divine Purpose: "If you feel tapped into your divine purpose... Your body's going to respond."
  • Samuel Armes:
    • On Old Testament: "The Old Testament, if you're like an analytical, finance, like, guy, like, history guy. The Old Testament is awesome."
    • On Bitcoin: "The longer you've been in, the longer you're just like, oh, it is just Bitcoin."
  • David McIntosh:
    • On God's Plan: "I think things succeed when you build things when they're actually God's plans and we're tapping into it. Everything that you've described defines it."
  • Nav Singh:
    • On Trading: "It's like Vegas... And if you're just patient, and you don't get caught up in the prophecy, you're just having a great time."
    • On Faith & Flow: "Surrender. To God? Yes... So you're always just wherever God puts you, you follow and go with the motion of the ocean, so to speak. Yeah. And he does amazing things."