Day-Long Ministry Immersion - October 6, 2025

Executive Summary

This transcript documents an extensive day-long immersion experience where Gary Sheng spent intimate time with Apostle Delmar Coward Jr. at Encounter Church and the surrounding property in Liberty, TX. The conversation reveals deep theological insights about "the way of fire," practical kingdom living, supernatural ministry operations, and the development of their collaborative book project. The day included property tours, supernatural demonstrations, theological discussions, and personal ministry time, providing Gary with unprecedented access to apostolic wisdom and lifestyle.

Property Tour and Vision Casting

Lake Encounter and Alligator Management

The day began with a tour of the church property, including Lake Encounter - a man-made pond created during construction:

Property Development Strategy:

"When we decided to put encounter right here, when we removed the trees, we found out it was the lowest property... So God gave me an idea... We don't have a retention pond. It's a pond that we dig on purpose to get the clay."

Practical Stewardship:

"This stock is full of fish. An alligator. And an alligator is in here. So, we'll be eating him... We'll kill them as soon as we see them. You don't want them to grow up and have babies."

Future Campus Vision

Apostle shared the comprehensive vision for expanding the Encounter campus:

Children's Church and Daycare:

"The initial design was a children's church. So, we'd have to cut some more of those pine trees... And the children's church would also be a daycare. So, then we'll be able to keep other children, teach children, teach them kingdom."

Sanctuary Expansion:

"There was another building and it became the sanctuary for encounter and it was big enough that it would sit thousands. So and that property is big enough to do that."

Goan Community Development

Vision for a complete Christian community centered around the church:

Gated Community Concept:

"Over here on this back part of the property... we're going to build a place called Goan in Goan. That'd be houses, a gated community where so basically like a whole just to keep people in the culture, right?"

Heaven on Earth Elderly Care:

"Heaven on Earth. God gave me the vision and gave me a name. Heaven on earth is a place where our elderly can receive... This one and it's going to be super close to all the other ages. So they're not isolated."

Theological Deep Dive: The Way of Fire

Defining the Way of Fire

Extended discussion about what it means to walk in God's fire:

Fire as God's DNA:

"What is fire? God is a consuming fire from his loins to his loins down. He is a fire... And if we don't run 98 degrees, we feel bad. So I mean God is a fire and his presence... That is I say God's DNA."

Personal Fire Baptism Experience:

"I'm standing before God in heaven, it came from him and it's turning and whirling like licking in the wind... And he said, 'Take this fire to the earth.'"

Walking in Supernatural Authority

Discussion of how believers can operate in supernatural power:

Connected to the Fire:

"For everybody to walk in the fire, I believe they better be connected to the fire... You put them logs together and they'll feed off of one another and then they'll burn up."

Fivefold Ministry Unity:

"When you get it and you ball it up, now it's the fivefold ministry. So now you get the power of the apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, and teacher connected to the church."

Everyday Faith System Revealed

Systematic Scripture Declarations

Detailed explanation of Apostle's daily faith practice:

Continuous Word Consumption:

"8:00... 8:30, another one shows up... 8:45 owe no man anything but to love him... 9:20 Ephesians 1:18... 10:00... I have like 2 at 10... then 10:30, 12 o'clock, 12:30, 1:00, 2:00, 7 o'clock, I stop."

Relationship Focus:

"The most important thing about doing your everyday faith declarations... the reason is relationship with God... when you put the word of God in your face, when you look at the word of God, in your mind, it's got to be this is God."

Spiritual Nutrition Analogy

Comparing spiritual feeding to natural eating:

Constant Spiritual Nourishment:

"So, do you feel like you're just constantly snacking on the word? Oh, I'm constantly eating... I stay full. Staying full."

No Spiritual Gluttony:

"But in the kingdom, there is no gluttony. You can eat all the words you want. Spirit just grows, grows, grows, grows, grows, grows. There are no limits."

Supernatural Technology and Documentation

Angels on Security Cameras

Live demonstration of supernatural activity captured on church security system:

Real-Time Angel Activity:

"When you turn the light off at the church, there's cleanup... we seen this orbs all through the church, moving, going through the church... You can see the glory cloud in the sanctuary."

Cherubim Manifestation:

"Two thieves... were walking through the parking lot of encounter at about 3 o'clock in the morning... and a ghost showed up and chased them out of the parking lot."

Divine Purpose for Technology:

"God told me to put security cameras everywhere... I'm thinking that I'm doing it so that people could feel safe... Well, when you turn the light off... we seen this orbs all through the church."

Glory Cloud Documentation

Photographic evidence of God's presence during services:

Visible Glory Manifestations:

"We don't have no lights that go down like that... Those are angels. That's the glory. That's the cloud. And we don't have no golden lights in this building."

Communion Presence:

"This is communion. God's presence was here during the communion... Where those spots come from? Gold spots. God, I guess."

Ministry Authority and Calling

Apostolic Eyes Phenomenon

Discussion of supernatural eye color changes during ministry:

Scriptural Foundation:

"In Revelation the fourth chapter... he that set was to look upon like jasper and sardine stone. And there was a rainbow around about the throne... That's all the same colors that my eyes turned."

Witness Testimonies:

"When he came down here with cancer... I laid hands on him. When I did, he said he opened up his eyes and he saw my pupils turned gold. Fire... That cancer was gone."

Electronic Engineering and Holy Spirit Partnership

Testimony of supernatural guidance in technical work:

Utah Crane Miracle:

"I put the print down and I lay my hands on it... Then God said to me, 'Check the power section.'... I start to look at those and then I notice that they're different manufacturers... You cannot use different name brand devices."

Supernatural Problem Solving:

"There's been very difficult decisions, situations, circumstances, and the fire operating in my life. The spirit of the living God operating in my life telling me things that I need to know about electronics."

Book Collaboration: "The Way of Fire"

Vision for the Book Project

Discussion of their collaborative book about living in God's fire:

Blueprint for Fire Living:

"I think you are the blueprint for the way of fire... there's like basically a way of life that you live that I've not seen anyone else take as seriously every day."

Teaching Others to Fight:

"I want to teach others how to fight every battle and win every battle. We should never lose a battle. You should never lose to cancer. We should never lose to AIDS."

Prison Ministry Application

Vision for distributing the book in correctional facilities:

Reaching the Incarcerated:

"We can get this book once we finish it into a lot of jails and prisons and we can have philanthropists buy hundreds or thousands of copies at a time."

Supernatural Healing and Deliverance

Gary's Allergy Healing

Live prayer and healing demonstration:

Immediate Prayer Ministry:

"I'm going to loose the fire of God upon you and I'm going declare everything transforming your body. Whatever is causing the allergic reaction, you stop now in Jesus name."

Virtue Flow Recognition:

"I love it when we can feel virtue flow. You know what Jesus said? He felt virtue flow out of him. I can feel when people are receiving."

Forgiveness and Miracles Connection

Teaching on the relationship between forgiveness and healing:

Forgiveness Prerequisite:

"Sometimes it's unforgiveness. Unforgiveness will stop a miracle in a minute. Forgiveness and miracles flow together."

Practical Application:

"Sometimes people can't receive until they forgive. And when they forgive, they let all that go, man, a miracle just happens."

Kingdom Economics and Recompense

Sevenfold Return Principle

Teaching on God's recompense for what the enemy steals:

Truck Theft Testimony:

"When the truck was stolen, my first words were... 'Devil, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I declare sevenfold return unto me now in Jesus mighty name.'"

Generator Miracle:

"I have this big generator still at my house that I didn't pay a dime for. God paid for it. He put a generator in the store, put an angel at the counter, gave me a credit application, then he paid the bill."

Spiritual Laws of Prosperity

Understanding kingdom principles of increase:

Seedtime and Harvest:

"Every word that you speak is a seed that you sow. So then why are you expecting something to grow when you hadn't said nothing?"

Faith Transportation System:

"Faith is the I call it the transportation system according to Ephesians 1. He's already blessed us with all spiritual blessings."

Personal Ministry and Relationship

Charlotte Coward's Role

Recognition of the apostle's wife's crucial ministry support:

Indispensable Partnership:

"Where would you be without Pastor Charlotte? Nowhere. I couldn't write the right kind of the right color socks... She dresses me. She feeds me. She prays for me. She takes care of me."

Supernatural Strength:

"She says, 'I'm supernaturally strong.' Is that in the Bible? Yeah... The spirit of the Lord comes upon you and make you strong enough to kill a lion."

Advanced Theological Insights

Religion vs. Relationship Distinction

Clear teaching on authentic Christianity versus religious performance:

Powerless Religion:

"Religion is weak, powerless. It's not even a shadow of the truth... It's a great deception... Even ones that say Christ, right?"

Relationship Priority:

"It's all relationship... when you open up the book, when you look at those scriptures, you're looking into the face of Jesus. You're spending time in his face."

Generational Curses and Medical System

Revolutionary teaching on breaking generational patterns:

Word-Based Inheritance:

"Does cancer run in your family?... So then the devil by them asking you make you say it and when you say it that's how generational curses are passed. It's not DNA it's words."

Kingdom Identity:

"When you got born again, you got born again of a place where there is no sickness. There is no disease... Your DNA has changed."

End Times and Glorified Church

Discussion of church preparation for Christ's return:

Church Maturity:

"A glorified church is one that's been faithful, that's been cleansed from all unrighteousness of the blood of Jesus. We're there right now."

Technology and End Times:

"God created technology for this very reason... when the three witnesses are going to be killed... the whole world is going to see it but one way the whole world is going to see that people with video phones."

Practical Kingdom Living

Fasting and Prayer Integration

Teaching on combining fasting with prayer for breakthrough:

Flesh Denial for Spirit Growth:

"The fasting gets you out of your flesh mode... instead of eating you spend that time in the presence of God. You're denying the flesh and you're growing your spirit."

Biblical Foundation:

"This kind cometh out not but by fasting and prayer. That's what Jesus told the disciples."

Obedience in Daily Life

Personal testimonies of specific obedience to God's voice:

Coffee Sacrifice:

"I'm drinking my coffee and then God spoke to me and said, 'Quit drinking coffee.'... I love coffee. I like coffee a lot. I love God just because he said stop."

Dietary Obedience:

"God told me... 'You can eat beef, you can eat seafood, fish, seafood, you can eat chicken, you can eat poultry.'... He left out pork. So I don't eat pork."

Ministry Network and Expansion

Elder Network Operations

Insight into the multi-state elder network:

Regular Elder Meetings:

"Thursdays... I have a meeting with the elders. I get all the elders to come on and I minister to all of them in every city."

Unified Vision:

"All elders operate under same supernatural ministry model with documented miracles... Strategic positioning for rapid expansion during end-times revival."

Global Ministry Vision

Discussion of worldwide ministry expansion:

Technology Integration:

"Zoom services, too... we've already done it... A woman had fibromyalgia... I pray for over the phone and she said that she was pain-free."

International Reach:

"Faith is fast. No, there is no time with faith... Faith trumps time."

Personal Transformation Testimonies

Gary's Spiritual Journey Recognition

Apostle's prophetic insight into Gary's calling:

Priestly Anointing:

"I perceive that there's this is a priestly family. He talks about his grandpa... there's an anointing. That's a priestly family... you've raised this young man up for... to do your will."

Divine Favor Declaration:

"Jesus grew in favor with God and men. And Father God, we need favor. So I loose favor all over this young man."

Continued Growth and Learning

Recognition of ongoing spiritual development:

Daily Revelation:

"Do you feel like you're still growing? Oh, man. I will always be growing... The fire will always get... Are you still learning stuff? Every day I learn. I get revelation every day."

Supernatural Downloads:

"When you get born again, the natural man receiveth not the things of God but the spirit man... now God can give downloads straight into your spirit."

Key Theological Positions Established

Fire as God's Essence

Understanding fire as more than metaphor:

Literal Fire Nature:

"God is a consuming fire... he made us after his own image and likeness. And if we don't run 98 degrees, we feel bad."

Armor of Light:

"The armor is fire. It is light and it is fire... your loins girt about with truth... take the sword of the spirit which is the word of the living God."

Spiritual Laws and Kingdom Operations

Teaching on how spiritual laws govern all things:

Universal Application:

"There are laws that work. The laws of heaven govern all spiritual things... When you get into that kingdom, you can use those laws and rule over everything."

Consistent Results:

"Even if you're like kind of not really doing it with a pure... I don't want Jesus, but I know if I do this, I'm going to make a profit... And they make a profit."

Closing Reflections and Future Vision

Book Project Momentum

Confirmation of collaborative writing project:

Immediate Action:

"So, what... so as electronic engineer and technical person... let's just start right. Let's start working on this book. Let's do it."

Target Audience:

"I want to teach others how to fight every battle and win every battle... You can't teach others what you don't know."

This day-long immersion provided Gary with unprecedented access to apostolic wisdom, supernatural demonstrations, and practical kingdom living principles. The experience represents a deepening of their ministry partnership and the development of systematic teaching materials that could impact believers worldwide. The conversation reveals the depth of supernatural Christianity available to those willing to walk "the way of fire" through complete surrender and obedience to God's voice.