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Gary-Anastasia Publishing Strategy Discussion
Date: July 18, 2025 Type: Phone Call Follow-up Participants: Gary Sheng, Anastasia Uglova
Context
Follow-up phone call after their in-person meeting to discuss Anastasia's memoir publication strategy, timing considerations, and the broader cultural reckoning around elite predatory behavior.
Key Discussion Points
Cultural Zeitgeist & Timing
Gary emphasized the perfect timing for Anastasia's story: "This is THE perfect moment for your story. We're in a massive cultural reckoning about corrupt leadership - Epstein network, predatory men in power etc. Your Greitens experience sits right at this intersection."
The conversation highlighted parallel scandals happening simultaneously:
- Cassie (Diddy's victim) being blamed and not believed
- Anastasia not being believed about Eric Greitens despite "huge public record and easily Googleable history of his offenses"
- Aubrey Marcus scandal in Austin conscious community
Aubrey Marcus Austin Scandal
Anastasia detailed the Aubrey Marcus situation: "Aubrey Marcus went to Egypt and apparently heard the voice of ISIS and one of the temples and Isis told him that he has to impregnate both women. So he started, he added another woman to his marriage, and so he is impregnated them both."
She described it as "radical monogamy, which is actually just polyamory, but they're redefining words" and noted the therapist interviewing them "has a long history of sexual abuse himself. He's a predator himself."
Legal Constraints & Investigation
Anastasia revealed significant legal obstacles:
- "There's an ongoing police investigation, and so I can't name Eric by name right now"
- Three law firms initially interested but declined when learning it was Eric Greitens: "They're literally law firms that deal with sexual assault, and it's because they don't wanna deal with the PR and political fallout of exposing someone who has political influence and ties to the Trump administration"
Publishing Strategy Discussion
Gary's core advice focused on strategic sequencing:
- Strategic essay on Substack first - not as replacement for book but to build momentum
- Reduce quantum physics content by 50% - focus more on power dynamics and spiritual bypassing
- Podcast circuit appearances (Chris Williamson mentioned specifically)
- Book launch as culmination
Gary's reasoning: "I think the audience that I believe that will be the audience that carries you to your book is gonna already get it without you overexplaining a lot of stuff."
The Jesus/Crucifixion Parallel
Gary identified the spiritual dimension: "It is really funny how this is like a Jesus story overall... Because you're being crucified for telling the truth."
Anastasia confirmed this privately held insight: "I literally am going through the crucifixion moment. I have felt this, I have said it to myself. I just can't name it publicly... And if I didn't have Jesus at this moment, if I didn't have him. I, this is the kind of stuff that sends people into like madness and depression, but because I found Jesus or he found me or whatever it was, all I've been feeling is a kind of sublime detachment."
Movement Building & Truth-Telling Mission
Gary framed this as movement-building: "Very movement building based... You have the spark or the big bang... That initial action shifts reality. And it also, it's gonna cause Eric to freak out, right? And like do dumb stuff... And then the truth keeps crucifying, rightfully crucifying other people."
He emphasized the unique value proposition: "What makes your story so unique: you encountered genuine evil from establishment leadership and came out with DEEPER faith, not cynicism. That's exactly what people need to see rn."
Spiritual Counsel & Support Network
Gary offered connections:
- Friend who does creative direction for major podcasts (Huberman, etc.) living "three doors down"
- Woman pastor at Glory of Zion church (though noted it's "Zionist church" as critique)
- Various spiritual mentors
Financial Protection Concerns
Anastasia expressed need for institutional support: "I need to find a sponsor that could allow me to take time off from work and protect me. Like from the fucking lawsuits."
Gary suggested: "Either you stick with your stable corporate job. Or you expose power, right? I kind of agree that you can't do both at the same time... Because you're gonna want to think very clearly as you are being attacked."
Gary's Motivation
When asked about his underlying motivation, Gary was direct: "Because I fucking hate these people."
He positioned himself as someone wrestling with proximity to evil: "I've been wrestling with this as someone that was at the White House a few weeks ago, and I believe that God has put me in proximity to a lot of evil and irony at the same time."
Key Insights & Observations
On Austin's Conscious Community
The conversation revealed deep critique of Austin's spiritual scene - communities "obsessed with healing" where "the only thing actually being transcended is accountability" and "the price of belonging is silence."
On Cultural Disinformation
Anastasia distinguished her work from conspiracy theories: "There's so much frustrating garbage disinformation right now... it's all just distortion from the evil one that's meant to get you distracted from the real garbage that's happening right in front of you... So you know it's not from God."
On Truth-Seeking vs. Corporate Media
Gary advocated for donation-based truth-seeking: "I don't think that people understand that there's a different way to pursue the truth. That's not just selling ads... There can be truth seeking missions that are so big that it doesn't, you don't need to just expect someone to expect a million people to buy your book."
Next Steps Discussed
- Continue writing book in spare time
- Develop Substack essay strategy
- Build network of spiritual advisors
- Wait for police investigation resolution while building momentum
- Gary to make introductions to relevant contacts
Broader Themes
- Faith vs. fear in spiritual discernment
- Institutional protection of predators across political/spiritual communities
- The necessity of courage in truth-telling missions
- Strategic timing in cultural reckoning moments
- Integration of mystical experience with social justice advocacy