Jeffrey Epstein: The Intelligence Asset - Key Revelations from Tucker Carlson Interview with Daryl Cooper
Date: July 18, 2025
Source: Tucker Carlson Interview with Daryl Cooper
Topic: Jeffrey Epstein's Intelligence Community Connections
Executive Summary
This interview reveals a disturbing pattern of intelligence community connections surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, suggesting he functioned as a freelance intelligence asset involved in arms dealing, money laundering, and compromising operations spanning from the 1980s Iran-Contra affair through his death in 2019.
Key Revelations & Direct Quotes
The Barr Family Connection
The Statistical Impossibility:
"The attorney general of the United States who arrested Jeffrey Epstein, oversaw his death, declared his death a suicide before the investigation ended, is the son of the guy who hired Jeffrey Epstein at age 20 with no teaching experience or college degree to teach at one of the most prestigious schools in Manhattan."
Donald Barr's Background:
- Former OSS agent (CIA precursor)
- Hired Epstein at Dalton School despite complete lack of qualifications
- Wrote science fiction book "Space Relations" about alien oligarchs using children as sex slaves
- Direct Quote: "The basic plot involves oligarchs who have been corrupted by their power and wealth to the point where they're basically insane, and they spend most of their time breeding young slaves and kidnapping children from around the universe to bring them home and use them as sex slaves."
Bill Barr's Intelligence Career:
- CIA legal intern during Church and Pike Committee hearings (critical CIA oversight period)
- Key Role: "He was the guy that when Congress requested some documents... he goes back and convinces them that this is all there is or that they don't need the rest"
- Became Attorney General under George H.W. Bush (former CIA Director)
- Cleaned up Iran-Contra affair
- Later returned as Trump's AG and oversaw Epstein's death
The Intelligence Community Admission
Alexander Acosta's Revelation:
"I was told that Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone."
- Acosta was the federal prosecutor who gave Epstein an extraordinarily lenient sentence in 2007
- This statement was made during his vetting process for Trump's Labor Secretary position
- Tucker's verification: "I believe that he's been asked about this and has not denied it and that his response was that's true, but I don't remember who said it to me."
Early Career Pattern
From Teacher to Arms Dealer:
- 1974: Hired at Dalton School by Donald Barr at age 20, no qualifications
- 1976: Fired from Dalton, hired at Bear Stearns through student's father (Ace Greenberg)
- 1980: Fired from Bear Stearns for regulatory violations
- 1981: Age 28, on private plane with British arms dealer Douglas Lee to Pentagon meeting
The Impossible Trajectory:
"So again, to go over his resume, he does two years of college, drops out, gets hired as a high school math teacher, is run out of that job ignominiously... Then he goes to work for Bear Stearns, does that for just a few years, and gets run out of there for a regulatory violation. And that is his resume at this point... The very next year... he's 28 years old... We have him on a private airplane with a big-time British arms broker named Douglas Lease... to go to a meeting at the Pentagon."
The Arms Dealing Network
Douglas Lee's Role:
- Major British arms broker in 1980s
- Mentioned in UK Parliament regarding Aliyamama weapons deal (largest in UK history - $46 billion)
- Function: "He was a fixer. He was a guy who made the deals happen. He made sure the right people got paid off"
Adnan Khashoggi Connection:
- Uncle of murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi
- Epstein's sole known client when he started his own company
- Key Point: "As far as anybody's ever been able to find out... he had one client and that client was Adnan Khashoggi"
- Major Iran-Contra money conduit
- Received over $100 million annually from companies like Lockheed Martin as a "middleman"
Robert Maxwell - The Israeli Intelligence Connection
Maxwell's Background:
- Born in Czechoslovakia, escaped Nazis, fought in WWII
- Won Distinguished Service Cross (second highest British military honor)
- Post-war British intelligence officer in Berlin
- Media mogul (owned Daily Mirror, New York Daily News)
- Member of British Parliament in 1960s
Israeli Intelligence Recruitment:
- Recruited by Yitzhak Shamir (future Israeli PM, former Stern Gang terrorist leader)
- Recruitment appeal: "His obligations as a Jewish billionaire and important guy with intelligence community connections... to the Jewish state of Israel"
- Functioned as go-between for Israeli government and KGB
- Used company pension funds as "slush fund for Israeli intelligence black ops"
Maxwell's Death:
- Found floating near Canary Islands after threatening to expose Israeli intelligence
- Quote: "He went to his friends in the Mossad and told them, 'Look, I've done all this for you over the years... you are going to get me out of this somehow'"
- Had injuries consistent with struggle, three doctors couldn't agree on cause of death
- Satellite photo showed unknown boat near his yacht
State Funeral in Israel:
- Attended by every living Israeli PM and intelligence head
- Yitzhak Shamir's eulogy: "This man has done more for the state of Israel than can now be told"
- Buried on Mount of Olives facing Western Wall (highest honor)
Les Wexner - The Inexplicable Relationship
The Power of Attorney Mystery:
- Wexner (billionaire, Limited Brands/Victoria's Secret owner) gave Epstein full power of attorney after knowing him only two years
- Full control: "Jeffrey Epstein could take out loans in his name. He could sign his tax returns. He had full power of attorney over the Wexner estate"
- Controlled Wexner Foundation board for 15 years
- The $70 million gift: Les Wexner gave Epstein the largest private residence in Manhattan
Unprecedented Corporate Control:
"Wexner had his own executives, people who worked for him for decades coming to him being like, 'Boss, who is this guy? What are you doing? Why are you giving him so much authority and power?'"
Power Demonstration:
- Epstein showed up an hour late to meet Wexner's longtime friend
- Power move: "He sits down in the chair and he kicks his feet up on the guy's desk"
- When the friend later disagreed with Epstein: "He couldn't reach Wexner by phone. He got cut off immediately, completely with no explanation"
Media Suppression - The Vanity Fair Cover-up
Vicky Ward's 2002 Investigation:
- Had three on-record witnesses of Epstein's sexual assault of minors
- Story passed legal review at Vanity Fair
- Epstein's threats to Ward: "I'm not coming after the magazine if you print this. I'm coming after you because my relationship here is with you. Don't do this to yourself. Don't do this to your family."
Editor Graydon Carter's Intimidation:
- Epstein found waiting in Carter's locked office
- Escalating threats:
- Bullet found on Carter's doorstep
- Severed cat's head found at his country house
- Carter killed the sexual assault portions of the story
- Result: "Probably because of that a lot more girls got sexually assaulted over the next several years"
The Fake Money Management Operation
Complete Absence of Evidence:
"People think like a hedge fund is like a dude sitting at his desktop computer... Hedge funds have teams of analysts and mathematicians... it's a whole big business... nobody knows anybody who's ever worked for Epstein in this capacity... Nobody has even heard of anybody who's heard of anybody who's ever done any kind of... investing money, trading stocks, nothing. Which is just impossible."
The Institutional Reality:
"When you're operating at that level, if he was who he says he was, moving that kind of money around... you take a position in the company... these are things that are done through large institutions... There's a lot of people involved. Nobody has even heard of anybody... It's flatout impossible that he was doing what the official story says he was doing."
"Playing the Box" Scheme: According to Steven Hoffenberg (Towers Financial Ponzi scheme):
"Stealing money from people and making sure that you have compromising information on them so that even if they catch you doing it, they're going to be too embarrassed or too afraid to actually come out and go after you."
The $600 Million Rejection:
- Claimed to only take accounts of $1 billion or more
- A business associate brought him a $600 million client (equivalent to $2 billion today)
- Epstein's response: "Oh, no. It's too small. I don't deal with that kind of pocket change"
- Reality check: "Obviously, there is no fund manager in the world that would do that... He wasn't a money manager. People he didn't actually invest people's money."
The Victoria's Secret Connection
Exploiting Wexner's Business:
"There was a point in the 1980s... Wexner owned Victoria's Secret. For a guy like Jeffrey Epstein, that's kind of a gold mine you're sitting on... he would go out and he would pose as a talent scout... he would get girls who wanted to be models who wanted to be in Victoria's Secret to pose for him and then he would sexually assault them."
Executive Complaints Ignored:
"Two of the top executives at Victoria's Secret together... went to him together and presented the evidence and told him that this is what this guy's doing and they never heard anything more about it. Nothing happened."
Other Wealthy Funders
Leon Black:
- Gave Epstein over $100 million
- Official excuse: "We trusted this guy as an investment manager... we were suckers"
- Cooper's analysis: "There's not a lot of billionaire suckers out there... when it comes to the money side of their life"
The Pattern:
"They all kind of have the same story... but they don't even describe what the scam was. What's the scam?"
Iran-Contra Connections
The Scheme Structure:
"We're going to sell weapons to Iran, which we're not allowed to do, but we are allowed to sell weapons to Israel... Israel working through guys like Adnan Khashoggi are going to get those weapons to Iran... Iran's going to pay a premium for these weapons. And that premium is off the books and that is going to be used to support the Contras."
Money Laundering Centrality:
"People think of money laundering as like this boring sideshow when it comes to organized crime or their cousins in the intelligence community. It's not a sideshow. It's right at the center of the thing. The whole operation relies on money laundering."
The Outsourced Intelligence Model
Post-Church Committee Changes:
- CIA activities curtailed after Church and Pike Committee hearings
- Solution: Outsource operations to freelancers like Epstein
- Quote: "They're freelancers they're mercenaries they work for the CIA today, they might work for MI6 tomorrow, they might work for the Mossad or Israeli Defense Intelligence the next day"
National Endowment for Democracy Example:
"One of the former heads of the National Endowment for Democracy on the record in an interview almost bragging... saying 'we do all the jobs that the CIA used to do of course' and so it was outsourced... 100% in coordination with CIA"
The 2007 Arrest and Federal Cover-up
The Local Investigation
West Palm Beach Police:
- Started with one victim whose father reported to police
- Expanded to over 40 on-record witnesses, most underage
- Police Chief's reaction: "It cost him his faith in the US criminal justice system"
- Local corruption: Information leaked to Epstein - "when they raided his house... all the computers had been taken away... He was 100% tipped off"
Federal Takeover:
- Police chief bypassed chain of command, went directly to feds
- Expectation: "This is going to be the easiest case I've ever done... we're going to put this guy away for a hundred years"
Alexander Acosta's Non-Prosecution Agreement
The Deal Details:
- Federal government agreed not to prosecute Epstein for any alleged crimes
- Blanket immunity: "Any related crimes that have yet to be alleged, nor will they prosecute any of his accomplices known or unknown"
- Most protective possible: "Crimes that come out in the future committed by people who aren't known about yet, those are covered under this immunity as well"
Procedural Violations:
- Deal cut without telling lead prosecutor Villian Noeva
- Victim's Rights Law violation: "You got to tell the victims... if you're gonna cut a deal with a sex offender"
- Subpoena for Epstein's computers was dropped as condition of deal
Lead Prosecutor's Reaction:
"She was very aggressive... 'I don't know what's happening here... we have a child predator on our hands with an open and shut case to put this guy away for the rest of our life. What is the problem here?' And she gets reprimanded and told... 'your attitude is not appreciated and you need to back off'"
The Fake Jail Sentence
County Jail "Punishment":
- 13 months (originally sentenced to 24 months)
- His own wing of the county jail to himself
- Cell door remained open
- Work release: 12 hours a day, 6 days a week
- Private security: Accompanied only by security he paid for
- Only had to stay overnight 6 days a week
- Probation violations ignored: Would leave country, travel to Paris, Virgin Islands
Federal Judge's Later Ruling:
- Government had engaged in "a conspiracy with Jeffrey Epstein"
- Deal was found illegal and stricken, allowing 2019 rearrest
Elite Moral Corruption - The Tony Podesta Connection
Spirit Cooking Events:
- Performance art by Marina Abramović attended by Podestas
- Description: "Attendees would... eat meals off of mock corpses in tubs of blood with weird creepy messages... drinking fresh breast milk with fresh sperm milk... written in goats blood on the walls... an effigy of an infant with a bucket of goat's blood thrown all over it"
Podesta's Art Collection:
- Serbian artist Biljana Đurđević: Paintings "based on explorations of child molestation, sexual assault and childhood trauma"
- Main piece: "A bunch of young girls... lying in a circle... they all have this spaced out kind of dead drugged out look... some of them have black eyes"
- Other featured artists: Patricia Piccinini (demon creatures with children), Kim Noble (dissociative identity disorder victim whose art depicts graphic child abuse)
Cultural Normalization:
"These were rooms that he threw his parties in. He invited people over to... if you were into them like being... into something like that means that you are on an evil path that's evil... You would get kicked off of a local school board for having pictures of tied up dead eight-year-olds on your wall"
Post-Conviction Celebrity Associations (2008-2019)
Bill Clinton:
- Rode Epstein's plane 26 times (for reference, Jean-Luc Brunel, Epstein's partner who also "killed himself" in jail, visited Epstein only 70 times during his 13-month sentence)
The "Rehab Tour":
"A lot of it is sort of framed and does look like it's sort of a rehab tour... he's giving a lot of money away to primarily scientific causes... trying to rebuild public goodwill"
Continued Elite Access:
- Key point: Everyone in elite circles knew what Epstein had done by 2008
- His plane was nicknamed "the Lolita Express" by others
- Yet celebrities and politicians continued associating with him
Epstein's Death and Cover-up
Suspicious Circumstances
Pre-Death Events:
- Put in cell with violent criminal (corrupt NYPD officer convicted of double murder)
- Assaulted by cellmate
- Flight risk: Had fled to Israel before 2008 sentencing, moved money offshore
Death Scene Anomalies:
- All three cameras "malfunctioned" simultaneously
- Guards "fell asleep"
- Log book pages for critical time period "went missing"
- Lawyer's assessment: "Nobody who was close to him... believes that he committed suicide"
Bill Barr's Cover-up
Immediate Damage Control:
"Soon as this happened, I... my first concern was people would think he was murdered... if your goal from the very first moment was to convince people of something you didn't know was true, you're not pursuing the truth. You are, in fact, by definition, participating in a cover up"
Pattern of Intelligence Cover-ups:
- Bill Barr's history: CIA liaison during Church Committee, cleaned up Iran-Contra, now Epstein
- Historical pattern: "There's a history there... of covering things up that have embarrassing ties to the intelligence community"
The Broader Significance
Elite Accountability Crisis
The Proxy Question:
"Jeffrey Epstein has become a proxy for other things... can we hold these people accountable?... really what it was is, man, these people have gotten so out of control and so out of touch with the rest of us... we just got to bring in a wrecking ball from the outside"
No Democratic Control:
"There is no democratic control in the United States. The population's views don't really matter. That's the feeling that people have"
The Sacred Line:
"If anything is sacred, a child's innocence is sacred. And sacred means there is no compromise... Whatever your excuse is, national security... the answer is no... we don't care what your excuse is. We're talking about a man who was raping children"
The Ultimate Test:
"We're not going to take no for an answer on it. This is too far... if you can't [be honest about this] then it means that you this thing cannot be fixed that you cannot be honest with us about anything"
Critical Questions Raised
Media Blackout
"Every time any little piece of information has dropped about the Epstein story... it goes viral. It is the number one story that night... You talk about billionaire playboy who has connections to world governments... was running a mass pedophile ring and the labor secretary under Donald Trump... said that he belonged to intelligence. I would think that every newspaper in the country... would have a team of reporters camped out on that dude's lawn... but we don't get that."
The One-Degree Separation Problem
"Can we have one major public official that is not a single degree separated from Jeffrey Epstein? Is that possible? Because apparently it's not possible... Unfortunately, it's like we just can we just get like one important person who's not one degree or less separated from the most prolific mass pedophile in US history?"
Les Wexner's Silence
"As far as I know... Wexner, who I believe is still alive, has never been interviewed by the Department of Justice... I don't think he's given any interviews to journalists about it."
Trump Administration Development
Breaking News During Interview: President Trump announced on Truth Social:
"Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony subject to court approval. The scam perpetrated by Democrats should end right now!"
Conclusion
This interview presents a comprehensive case that Jeffrey Epstein functioned as a freelance intelligence asset whose primary value was:
- Money laundering expertise for black operations spanning from Iran-Contra to modern day
- Compromising material collection through his sex trafficking operation
- International connections facilitating arms deals and covert operations
- Elite blackmail operations using the "playing the box" scheme
The pattern of intelligence connections, combined with his impossible career trajectory, unexplained wealth, and protection by federal authorities, suggests Epstein was far more than a simple predator - he was a crucial node in a network spanning multiple intelligence agencies and serving interests that transcended national boundaries.
The Most Damning Evidence:
- The statistical impossibility of the Barr family connections
- Alexander Acosta's admission that "Epstein belonged to intelligence"
- Complete absence of evidence for legitimate money management
- Federal conspiracy to protect him despite 40+ witnesses
- Continued elite associations post-conviction when everyone knew
- Bill Barr's active participation in covering up his death
Elite Moral Corruption: The Epstein case exposes a ruling class that has abandoned basic moral boundaries, as evidenced by Tony Podesta's grotesque art collection normalizing violence against children and the broader cultural acceptance of Jeffrey Epstein in elite circles even after his 2008 conviction.
The Proxy for Systemic Failure: As Cooper emphasizes, this case has become "a proxy for can we hold these people accountable?" The systematic suppression demonstrates that there is "no democratic control in the United States" and that "the population's views don't really matter."
The Sacred Line:
"If anything is sacred, a child's innocence is sacred. And sacred means there is no compromise... We're talking about a man who was raping children... if you can't [be honest about this] then it means that you this thing cannot be fixed that you cannot be honest with us about anything."
The systematic suppression of this story by major media outlets, the protection provided by federal authorities, and the continued elite associations post-conviction reveal a power structure that operates above and outside democratic accountability - one that Americans have both the right and obligation to demand answers from, regardless of the consequences.
The Attack on Truth-Tellers
Mark Levin's Response: The interview opened with Tucker reading Mark Levin's attack on them:
"Why are these insane knuckleheaded no nothings, these propagandists, these demagogues given platforms?... I'm going to take this crap on for as long as I live because it's destroying our youth and destroying their minds."
Cooper's Response:
"I think when you see the constellation of commentators and personalities that have immediately jumped to the side of there's nothing to see here, it's all over with. Let's drop the case... it's all the same people who were telling us we were traitors if we didn't want to bomb Iran just a few weeks ago."
The Fear Factor:
"I think that people like Mark, people like Ben Shapiro, a lot of these folks are actually they're afraid... they have something like the pop understanding of what Jeffrey Epstein was about in their heads and they're afraid that exposing the case will show his ties to Israeli intelligence."
Cooper's Conservative Position:
"I actually have a much more conservative view on the whole thing than they probably do... I think he did work for Israeli intelligence, but I think he was a freelancer. He did work for the CIA, did work for a lot of intelligence agencies, probably independent criminals... this is not just about Israel... It's about our government. They're the ones who covered up the freaking crimes in 2007."
The vicious attacks on those seeking truth about Epstein reveal the desperation of those who benefit from the current system of elite impunity - and underscore why this story represents such a fundamental threat to the existing power structure.