Trump's Right Hand: The Most Powerful Person Behind the Scenes
Date: July 12, 2025
Source: Miranda Divine Pod Force One Interview with Susie Wiles
Topic: Inside Look at Trump's White House Chief of Staff
Core Insights
Susie Wiles, Trump's Chief of Staff, provides unprecedented insights into the inner workings of the Trump administration, revealing the strategic thinking, personal dynamics, and spiritual dimensions behind one of the most productive presidencies in modern American history.
The Trump Work Ethic and Presidential Achievement
Unprecedented Productivity
"Looking at the accomplishments in totality, it's it's unfathomable. And the last two weeks have been even more so between foreign leaders and peace and increased defense spending and a very strategic action on Iran and soon to be we hope peace in Gaza, passing the one big beautiful bill. I mean, the list is too long for even your long form podcast, but it's it's just been remarkable."
The 2020 Preparation Advantage
"Because the way the 2020 election went, ended, whatever, he had four years to think about exactly what he wanted to do when he got back here and was ready to begin on the first day and has never stopped since."
Superhuman Pace
"I don't know of another mortal who could really keep up... it is super human pace. There is no question. And if you look around at the staff, they're all young but me. So there's there's a reason for that."
The Chief of Staff Philosophy
Fundamental Understanding of Role
"I gave some piece of advice to myself when I started this job. I am the chief of staff. I'm not the chief of Donald Trump. And if I keep remembering that, then I know to facilitate what he needs and wants to be the president of the United States leader of the free world."
Managing the Administrative Machine
"I am in charge of all the administrative stuff that nobody would want to be in charge of and also the big picture that I do want to be in charge of... In government and particularly in the White House, the chief of staff is fairly prescribed."
Working with Protocol
"Things have been done a certain way here for a very long time. And you can do some things differently and I do. But you can't upset the whole apple cart at once... these protocols are here for a reason. It does make the machine work more easily."
Understanding Trump's Character
The Predictable Leader
"Here's what's not hard about my job. Donald Trump, right? He is predictable and open and approachable and honest and honorable and committed and all of those things, which does not mean he can't be irritated or frustrated."
Problem-Solving Approach
"I've never found him to be irritated or angry for no reason. So solving the underlying problem is where I focus... what he wants from me is to fix whatever made him angry. So I try to go to the root cause."
The Voracious Reader
"He reads a voracious reader. Reputation is different, but I can tell you a voracious reader... He reads the New York Post cover... And the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times and sometimes the Washington Post... and anything else that comes his way, Financial Times and and all of the periodicals."
The Misunderstood Disruptor
Why People Get Trump Wrong
"Change is hard for people. A disruptor is hard for people... Donald Trump's gift in my view is the thing that that makes people uncomfortable sometime which is that he says what so many people think but never had the nerve to say it."
The Authenticity Factor
"He just says what's on his mind and people say, 'Yeah, I think that too.' So it's different, but it's working. He's in his second term and as we started this interview, he has done more in six months than than many administrations, certainly the last one, did in four years."
The "Ice Maiden" and Managing Strength
When Toughness is Required
"You cannot get what you want with respect and logics and sometimes you have to be a little tougher. I don't have to do that very much here. Everyone here is so devoted to what we're trying to do."
Cabinet Management
"The cabinet is they each have what in other places would be a government or or a company or whatever to manage... this cabinet is unparalleled in its diversity, in its strength, in its understanding of its issues, you know, person by person, and that breeds some independence sometimes that you have to pull back on."
Early Recognition of Trump's Potential
The 2015 Perception
"I looked around at the field of then 17 Republican primary candidates and said, you know, I'd been a traditional Republican all my life and I thought this just not working not for the American people. We need a disruptor here."
The Billionaire's Common Touch
"I didn't go into the meeting thinking would have his finger on the vein of the middle class, I realized he did. And then that decision was easy after that."
The Butler Assassination Attempt and Divine Intervention
The Moment of Terror
"Did you think he was dead? I did. Yeah. You think the worst. You cannot It's human. You can't You can't think otherwise. And when he stood up, I thought, 'Oh my gosh.'"
Divine Intervention
"Do you ever look back at that and think that it was divine intervention? 100%. And I think in a candid moment he would say so."
The Miraculous Chart
"The chart he had them put up on the screens on the big LED boards came, it was always the last chart in the rotation and it was always on the other side... caused him look in a different direction and lift his head just a little because it was higher and that just doesn't happen because it happened. It happened because I believe God wanted him to live."
Trump's Spiritual Transformation
"I would say I think he believes that he was saved. I do. And and he would never even if he thought it before I don't think he would have admitted it and he will now... Every president says, 'God bless America.' Well, it's it's more profound with him now and it's more personal."
The Elon Musk Situation
The Value and the Breakdown
"The president was very very kind to him and and Elon had so much to offer us. He knew things we didn't know. He knew people and and technologies that we didn't know. He it was a it was a great thing when it was a great thing."
The Mysterious Ending
"I don't understand it. I don't know. I know that what has been said doesn't ring accurate to me, but I don't know... Oh, he's the world's richest man. Might be the world's smartest man, honestly."
Personal Philosophy and Background
The Athletic, Merit-Based Upbringing
"I grew up in the 60s when in most families the daughters, the girls didn't have all the same opportunities that the boys had. And in my family, we did... I don't think I would have been able to do the things I've been able to do really gender blind because that's how I was raised."
The Career Interruption Reality
"I took 11 years pretty much out of this business... Re-entry is hard, right?... I don't recommend it... but it's not the easiest thing to do."
Supporting Working Mothers
"You can't be your best at work if you're worried about your children, worried about your daycare, worried about whether the nanny's sick on a given day. So, I lived that. I understand that."
The Father's Alcoholism and Recovery
The Letter That Changed Everything
"I talked about one of my daughters had was a toddler and how he in in a in a state wouldn't recognize her or see her when she would be running around and that was horrifying to me because he'd been such a good dad when I was a little girl."
The Triumph of Sobriety
"If you become sober and you live another 30 years sober, it's not sad... it's a great triumph. And it's conquering something that that many can't, unfortunately."
Trump's Patriotic Motivation
The True Driver
"He cares so he's he is truly a patriot and cares so deeply about this country. And that's not something that he came to in 2016. It's always been there... this country's given him everything and he believes this is his chance to begin to give back and I I think he's right."
Philosophy of Success
The Three Keys to Success
"Successful people, highly successful people share a couple of mutual characteristics. I don't know somebody who has risen to the top of their profession that doesn't have an unbelievable work ethic... people that succeed are good listeners. That old rule about, you know, listen three times and act one time, I believe."
Divine Timing
"People come people are ready for the time... if I had been in this environment in my 30s I wouldn't be sitting here. It's you do life has a way of steering you if you if you let it on a good path to get you where you should be when you should get there and doesn't hurt to work really hard along the way."
The Exceptional Cabinet
The Remarkable Composition
"I was jotting down in my notebook... five published authors, seven billionaires, 11 lawyers, couple of minorities, a Democrat or two. It it is an amazing group of people that he put together."
Individual Excellence
"What Bobby Kennedy's done... Brook Rollins is doing great... Linda McMahon has an impossible job... that she's done with great grace... Marco Rubio was born for this... there's not one I would not who I would say is not a complete success."
Strategic Insights
The Importance of Multiple Inputs
"He prefers as many inputs on any given topic as he can possibly get. And I prefer that for him. He's it makes for better decisions. But at a certain point, you've got to rein it all in and he's got to make a decision. And he does. And then we execute."
Managing Natural Chaos
"There is a natural chaos. And he prefers it... but at a certain point, you've got to rein it all in and he's got to make a decision. And he does. And then we execute."
Key Takeaways
- Strategic Preparation: Trump's four years out of office were crucial preparation time
- Superhuman Work Ethic: The pace of the administration is unprecedented
- Divine Intervention: The Butler assassination attempt was seen as God's protection
- Authentic Leadership: Trump's authenticity connects with people despite protocol breaches
- Exceptional Team: The cabinet represents unprecedented diversity of talent and experience
- Personal Growth: Trump's spiritual awareness has deepened since the assassination attempt
- Systematic Approach: Success comes from work ethic, listening, and divine timing
This interview reveals the sophisticated strategic thinking and deep personal convictions behind what many see as chaotic leadership, providing insights into how high-level political operations actually function when driven by both human excellence and spiritual conviction.