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Chris Clavio

Basic Information​

  • Current Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico (as of November 13, 2025 - moved from Bangkok)
  • Background: Creative technologist, immersive entertainment entrepreneur
  • Education: Art school background
  • Business: AI automation agency (struggling financially, considering pivot)
  • Family Situation: Currently caring for his mother who had a fall and needs support

Introduction​

  • How we met: Previously connected, reconnected at Edge City Denver in February 2024
  • Context: Long-form reconnection call on 2025-06-27 (Gary in Tulsa, Chris in Bangkok)
  • Most Recent Call: 2025-11-28 (post-Thanksgiving catch-up)

Professional Background​

  • Previous Venture: One World (immersive entertainment company) - exited end of 2024
  • Current Focus: AI automation agency specializing in AI calling infrastructure
    • Built through Upwork (top-rated profile)
    • Specializes in inbound calls for trade businesses (24-hour receptionists, booking, estimates)
    • Currently managing one Filipino developer (had to let go two others)
    • Major financial struggles after a 2.5-month project that was supposed to take 2 weeks
    • Considering options: continue business, get day job, or both
    • Potentially returning to Meow Wolf in Santa Fe
  • Technical Skills: "Fierce vibe coder" - creative technologist who learned coding in art school and at Meow Wolf
  • Coding Style: Describes himself as "Frank encoder" - can modify existing code and make it work, strong systems and design thinking
  • New Skills: Deep expertise in AI tools, Claude Code, vibe coding tools, AI calling infrastructure

Key Characteristics​

  • Entrepreneurial: Built and exited immersive entertainment company
  • Location Independent: Designed current business to operate from anywhere
  • Creative Background: Art school trained, worked at Meow Wolf
  • Tech Philosophy: Advocates for "vibe coding" as democratizing software development
  • Flexible: 30-day lease notice, highly agile lifestyle
  • Community Builder: Actively building network in Bangkok

Conversation Highlights​

Immersive Entertainment Vision​

Strong passion for large-scale immersive experiences:

"Unless you want a shoestring experience, you know?... when you're building a immersive entertainment, like, you have to have a facility and you need to build, you know, unless you're going to do a temporary, you know, it requires like a building and a lease and tenant improvement and like infrastructure"

Capital Requirements Understanding​

Clear perspective on funding needs:

"You just can't do it on a shoestring budget... it requires real capital to get off the ground"

AI and Creativity Philosophy​

Believes in reintroducing creativity as AI takes over process work:

"I think we need to reintroduce people to their creativity, because the real value is going to be in creative thinking, because a lot of the like, you, hard process work is going to be done autonomously"

Manufacturing/Automation Interest​

Open to collaboration on process automation:

"You combine AI, an immersive entertainment, dude, and you just have fucking magic"

Potential Collaboration Areas​

  • Immersive Entertainment: Large-scale experiential projects
  • Process Automation: Agency services for manufacturing/business processes
  • Creative Technology: AI-integrated immersive experiences
  • Legacy Projects: Museums, cultural preservation (mentioned Thailand royal family interest)
  • Educational Innovation: Alternative learning experiences

Current Life Situation (November 2025)​

  • Mother's Health Crisis: Moved back from Bangkok to care for mother after fall
    • Mother has limited support system in Santa Fe
    • Providing daily help with chores, healthcare navigation, errands
    • Staying with his father temporarily
    • Indefinite timeline for caregiving responsibilities
  • Financial Situation: "Majorly in the hole" - going into debt financing the business
  • Relationship Status: Recently broke up with Ukrainian girlfriend (Alexandra)
    • Dated since April 2025
    • Initiated breakup due to long distance and lack of compatibility
    • Realized needed partner who shares his optimistic vision

Network Connections​

  • Space Tourism: Connected through conference organizing
  • Thailand Royal Family: Friend has connections for potential legacy projects
  • Gauntlet AI: Featured in their promotional content
  • Edge City: Connected through Denver event

Personal Insights & Philosophy​

  • Vision as Core Gift: "The vision has nothing to do with me... it's spirit flowing through me"
    • Experiences creative visions as "white hot creative energy" from God
    • Highly visual thinker - sees complete movies in his head
    • Most effective when sharing vision with another human present
    • Considering focusing purely on vision/content creation rather than business operations
  • Professional Identity Crisis: Recognizing pattern of moving away from greatness when building organizations
    • "The further I've gotten into building the business, the further I've gotten away from my vision"
    • Questioning whether to build organizations at all vs. focusing on amplifying vision
    • Hesitant to rebrand from immersive entertainment to AI on LinkedIn
  • Values: Believes in "civilization level change" and contributing to larger movements
  • Communication Style: Prefers deep philosophical conversations about God, AI, consciousness, and humanity's future
  • Creative Expression Goals: Wants to use AI tools (VO3, Sora) to visualize future visions
  • Self-Awareness: Admits to poor communication skills in romantic relationships but strong confidence professionally

Key Quotes from November 2025 Conversation​

  • On his creative process: "Whenever it happens, for me, Gary, it's like a conduit opens up... from the spirit, bro"
  • On organizational building: "Maybe I don't need to build any kind of organization at all, like, ever"
  • On future vision: "I want to be talking about God and spirituality and AI and technology and the future of human civilization"
  • On content focus: "I want to write about... communities of 10,000 people... 3D printed housing... AI controlled energy... everybody's living like college or summer camp"
  • On current situation: "I'm surrendering to God's plan"

Notes & Observations​

  • Experienced with project failure and learning from it
  • Strong systems thinking and design capabilities
  • Pattern of financial struggles when scaling businesses
  • Deep self-reflection about whether to be operator vs. visionary
  • Strong faith perspective - sees challenges as part of God's plan
  • Grateful attitude despite significant challenges
  • Willing to take day job to support creative work
  • Values sovereignty and dignity over pure financial success
  • Uses whiteboard for task management (physical presence important)

Strategic Value​

  • christofuture-foundation: Chris's vision for "civilization level change" and his experience building immersive entertainment companies positions him as a high-influence creative who can advance kingdom impact through technology and storytelling. His Santa Fe location and artistic network provide access to cultural influencers.
  • applied-ai-society: With deep expertise in AI tools (Claude Code, vibe coding) and successful AI automation agency experience, Chris can contribute technical knowledge and real-world implementation case studies to the community. His "producer" philosophy aligns perfectly with Gary's applied AI vision.
  • daily-spirit: Chris's spiritual journey ("white hot creative energy from God"), experience with surrendering to divine will, and ability to articulate complex visions through multiple mediums make him valuable for creating compelling Christian content that reaches creative professionals and tech workers.
  • christofuture-prep: His background combining creativity with technology education (art school coding, Meow Wolf experience) could inform innovative educational approaches that blend technical skills with creative expression.

Previous Collaboration Areas​

  • Vision articulation and content creation partnership
  • Could benefit from Gary's lack of visual thinking (complementary skills)
  • Shared interest in consciousness, God, AI intersection
  • Both experiencing career redirections and spiritual growth
  • Potential to collaborate on written/visual content about future of humanity

Transcripts​

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2025-06-27-chris-clavio-tulsa-bangkok-conversation-summary2025-06-272025-06-27 Conversation with Chris Clavio (Tulsa-Bangkok)
2025-11-28-chris-clavio-post-thanksgiving-catchup2025-11-28Post-Thanksgiving catch-up discussing Santa Fe life and community building
2025-11-27-thanksgiving-gathering-villavicencio-family2025-11-27Thanksgiving family gathering with multiple generations and extended conversations